Doctoring the Truth
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Ep 34-Caregiver Con: No Body, No Crime?
A brake-slam on a country road sets the tone for an hour where trust, timing, and tiny choices change everything. We start with a heart-pounding near-miss and pivot into the disappearance of Gerald “Jerry” Rayborn—an 89-year-old father and WWII veteran whose caregiver, praised as an “angel,” quietly turned access into control and control into a financial and personal erasure.
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Amanda! Jenna! Hey! How are you doing? I'm doing good. I'm laughing because it was my turn to count again. And she was like, okay, are you ready? And I was like, Yeah. And I'm staring at her, waiting to count. I'm like, oh yeah, right, right, right, right, right, right. Yeah, my turn. Got it. Yeah, so I'm doing good now. Do you want to hear about how part of my day was?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, especially if it meant you weren't doing well before. What happened?
SPEAKER_00:So I almost died today.
SPEAKER_01:What?
SPEAKER_00:Like, no. Not even being dramatic. Like, oh my God. Okay. Tell me all. So I was down in my southern plains region today. And you know it's harvesting season. And so combines and tractors and things are on the roads. Yeah. And I'm driving from one school to another. And there was this combine, I think. Is a combine? I don't know. Took up the whole lane plus the shoulder. So like big. And I was like looking ahead, like, oh, okay, I have time to go around, but there is an oncoming car. But like thinking about, okay, by the time we pass each other, I thought we'd be in front of this uh, how do you say it? Like a bypass lane on the oncoming side. So I was like, oh, that'll be perfect. So I had like first slowed down because I was like, maybe I'll wait. And then I was like, no, I have like places to be. I'm gonna go around this tractor because that's what we do. We go around the tractor. So I like speed back up to 55. I start to go around this tractor, and this tractor starts turning in front of me. Like he did not signal, he did not nothing. Oh no, did not look for me. And I had to slam on my brakes so hard that like my Jeep started doing the best way I can describe it is like you know, when you're going down a ski hill and you kind of like shift the skis like side to side to start slow down. Yeah, like that is what my Jeep started doing. And so there's marks on the road from my tires, melting your tires on the road, slowly to try and stop. I was like, oh my god, I'm not gonna stop in time. Like, I'm gonna meet this combine. Everything in my car flew forward and like underneath the dash.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, everything's shot forward, and that's scary, and couldn't get under your pedals as well. That's so scary.
SPEAKER_00:And now, of course, I have like thousands of dollars of equipment in my car. Okay, it's all now under well, at the time. I didn't care because I was like breathing. Well, first I was I was so shocked. I told my husband, like, I called him immediately, and I was like, oh my god, this just happened. Like, I feel like I just cheated death. Like, I literally saw my Jeep smashing into this combine, and everything, and of course, I was drinking a frickin' protein shake, so I had protein shake all over my car. I still have not dealt with that. It was all over like the boxes of the equipment, but at least they were in boxes because you know protein shake is sticky. Yeah, oh my god, all the buttons on my dash, the screen on my car.
SPEAKER_01:I'm like, did the guy even notice that he almost caused your imminent death? I don't know. Well, I hope so.
SPEAKER_00:I was honking at him.
SPEAKER_01:Legally, they have to have a turnlight, like they have to have a blinker, right? On the back of their big ass thing.
SPEAKER_00:I would assume so. Dude, I was so mad I told my husband, like, I wanted to stop and go yell at him. Like, you could have killed me.
SPEAKER_01:That is so scary. Isn't it crazy how those sliding door moments where you're like, this could have ended so differently and changed so many lives.
SPEAKER_00:Yes. And like I got home and like my dog was all happy to see me, and I was like, oh my god.
SPEAKER_01:You almost didn't have a mama. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Would have just been waiting. The last thing I would have said to you is see you soon. And then I told my husband, I was like, Oh my gosh, I just ordered some different dresses for our family pictures for the fall, you know. I was like, and two of them arrived today in the mailbox. I told my husband, like, you would have gone and got the mail and saw my dresses I ordered, and you would have been so sad. And then I started crying, so I was like, I can't talk about this anymore. But anyway, so I'm doing fine now. But that was scary.
SPEAKER_01:Near death experience. That's trauma. That's so trauma. Hope my well, my daughter, I don't think she listens. She on a much lesser scale, she we almost met head-on with a tractor when I was trying to teach her to drive. And I mean, it was a stationary tractor with a sign on it. And I had told her, let's pull off this highway, you know, because we'd inadvertently gone to a road that led to a highway that was faster than she was comfortable with. And I was like, okay, well, let's find a there was a little turn off into a gravel driveway of this little farmstead where they had a, you know, they were selling eggs and pickles and whatever. So they were telling us that they're selling eggs and pickles with this sign on a tractor at the side of a culvert. She, I said, slow down, slow down, slow down! I'm trying to be cool. I'm trying to be your foot's like going through the floor. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm stomping on the floor. She wheels that puppy in, I kid you not, probably 15 miles an hour. And I'm staring at this green John Deere right in front of me who's holding the sign. All the dust on the gravel road is. I don't know how she managed to turn that thing on a dime, but she did. We managed to do like a, you know, three three-quarters of a circular turn. We look up when the dust clears and we see this farmer and his wife sitting on the step with our little toddler, like all eyes like saucers staring at us. I get out of the car and I'm like, it's gonna put in work. We get out and we're like, hey, you got any eggs?
unknown:You know?
SPEAKER_00:Like, hey, I heard you had the best egg.
SPEAKER_01:They're like, Yeah, but what's the hurry? You know, what's the rush? Um, so but that was the only this tractor was stationary. But I will say, my sister was on the back of a motorcycle with her boyfriend driving at the time, and it wasn't, I I don't know why that matters because it wasn't his fault. But they did a similar thing where they were gonna pass and they were behind a garbage truck, and the garbage truck turned without signaling, and they collided, and she ended up in traction, having to drop out of college, you know. She her pelvis was splintered and like all kinds of horrible stuff. So yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Use your signals, people. I don't care if it's a tractor, a garbage truck, a freaking cement truck, yeah, car, bike, anything.
SPEAKER_01:They know they're going slower than the speed limit. They know people are gonna want to pass them. So, you know, why are you gonna turn left in front of them without indicating?
SPEAKER_00:And there was a car uncoming too. Like to where I'm like mapping out like, do I even have time to go around? So I'm like, I wonder, I I didn't even think about this and that, but I wonder that other car probably just slam on their brakes too.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and also at least with a garbage truck or a car or a truck, you can there's a license plate. Are are there license plates on these big combines?
SPEAKER_00:Can you guess I don't know, but that's why I told Adam, I was like, he doesn't even have a number on the back of the tractor where I can call and be like, You're driving socks.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, or call the call the local police station and be like, you know what, have a chat with this dude because that's yeah, he was in a green tractor.
SPEAKER_00:Go get him on these roads. I don't know because I'm out in Bump E. And I don't know where I am. I'm literally going where my car tells me to go.
SPEAKER_01:Oh I'm getting better, but uh that's scary. I think lesson learned better to be late than trust your farmer.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Sorry, farmers, but yeah. Or and Adam was like, Do you think he heard you honking at him? Probably not, because he's probably an old farmer with hearing loss and tractor. Well, I think tractors are a lot like quieter now than they used to be, but they are, but also you signal, you indicate when you're gonna do it. There was me and another car. Ah okay, I'm over it. Oh my gosh, okay. Sorry, I just glanced to the left to where my document is, and I s I didn't put anything in a correction section, but now I see a very interesting topic in the correction section. Please tell me more.
SPEAKER_01:All right, so as usual, as per usual, when it's been my episode, I always have a correction. And as per usual, my window blinds are open and there's a squirrel frolicking literally like two feet away from me, like rolling around in the grass and having a joyous time. That it's really distracting me. Okay. Um, so shout out to best friend of the podcast, Nicole Krieger, for pointing out this correction. Last week, when we were, you know, bantering about the weather, I said, Yeah, you know, you want to get your stuff out, you know, your thigh high boots. She goes, Jenna, when have you ever worn thigh high boots in recent decades? And I was like, girl, you're right. I meant I meant knee high. I don't know. So thanks, Nicole. Thanks for bringing that up. Fossy.
SPEAKER_00:Thigh high.
SPEAKER_01:We get that visual. Yeah, we'll we'll get the visual of me and thigh high boots out of everyone's mind's eye. Sorry if that can't be wiped. So I just thought it'd be funny to say hey, thanks. And also her mom, Denise, she listens to our show. Hi, Denise. Hi, Denise.
SPEAKER_00:Shout out, ladies.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Well, she's a lady, is she not?
SPEAKER_00:Well, I said only hi to Denise, so I wanted to also say hi to Nicole.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, okay. All right. Anyway. All right.
SPEAKER_00:So that's the one correction. I was like, I get to say good job, no corrections. There's always next time. Uh so anyway, sorry about my long tractor story, guys. If you know me personally, you can't tell the story without it being long. AF. I mean, life would be a good one. Oh my god, because you know what? You could have been here and I died today instead of listening to me talk about a tractor. So you're welcome. I mean, I'm thankful.
SPEAKER_01:I am so thankful.
SPEAKER_00:And I guess if you don't want to hear it, they have that awesome 30-second button on the uh podcast.
SPEAKER_01:This is true. Okay, so before we move, it's called the banter button.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. I do appreciate on morbid podcasts that they have like that little jingle before they come back from their ads because I always hit like did it it forward, forward, forward. And then until I hear that like, and then I'm like, okay, they're coming back.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I guess we're not that nice.
SPEAKER_00:We ain't fancy yet.
SPEAKER_01:They're on Sirius XM. I mean Sirius XM, ladies. Get it, girls. Yeah, but looks like you made it.
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SPEAKER_01:Nice.
SPEAKER_00:Oh my god. What? I just realized I'm not using my microphone. But my thing is recording. I'm gonna take a brief pausing.
SPEAKER_01:We have to start over. No, we don't.
SPEAKER_00:Do we?
SPEAKER_01:You haven't been recording.
SPEAKER_00:It is recording.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, what's recording? I don't know. Just your computer mic? Look at it's recording. Okay.
SPEAKER_00:I'll work with it. I'll work with it. And that like the speech envelopes have looked as big as they normally do, so I didn't even think anything else.
SPEAKER_01:I know. You always have nice speech envelopes. I I'm puny. I can't even see them. And it doesn't matter what I do. I don't know how yours were so big.
SPEAKER_00:Maybe it's a Mac. Okay, friends, I have my microphone. Welcome. LOL, welcome to Urban. Perhaps for the first time. I don't know why I thought of that, but I was like, holy shit, I don't have a microphone. You're like, something's missing. My hands are too free to talk with. What's going on? Okay. All of the sources for today's story will be found in the show notes. There are no trigger warnings for this story. This is a tale that's it's a little different. I wasn't expecting it. So any hoozles. Shall we? We shall. Okay. Gerald Eugene Rayborn was born on March 20th, 1922. He loved automobiles, the Dodgers, and all things money and investments. He was a jovial man and everyone enjoyed being around him. He was very close with his daughter Mary and would often call her to talk about two things: vitamins that she should buy and stocks that she should sell. He and his second wife, Carolyn, whom the family adored, decided to move from Kansas City, Missouri to San Diego, California so that they could live a more active lifestyle year-round. They moved into a country club type atmosphere and were very, very happy there until the summer of 2010 when Carolyn was diagnosed with lung cancer. As a lifetime smoker, this diagnosis wasn't the biggest shock, though still obviously devastating. Carolyn's son Ralph went to visit Jerry and her in California. And while there, he helped them set up home health care through an agency. They thought it would be helpful to have someone who could come in to the home a couple of days a week, you know, help around the house with cooking, cleaning, and getting groceries. Because Carolyn kind of was the one that ran the household. And Jerry took care of her, she took care of him, but he was more the money guy and she was more the like logistical things of the household. So the assistance of the home health aid would allow Jerry to just focus on Carolyn. Denise Edmund was assigned to her care. Jerry and Carolyn adored her. Jerry would call Mary, his daughter, and say Denise was their angel. And I know, so sweet. Even though things were going as well as they could be in California, given their circumstances, Jerry would always remind Mary that, quote, you know, when Carolyn dies, I'm coming to live with you, end quote. Oh. Just as they knew the day would inevitably come, Carolyn passed away. The family was sad to learn of her passing, though excited that Jerry would be moving closer to them in Kansas City. But one day, when talking to Mary, things shifted. She spoke of plans to come out and help arrange his move back to KC, but he said he wasn't moving back yet. He said that he would stay in San Diego throughout the winter months, and Denise offered to stay as his caregiver at no cost during that time. Subbound. So he mentioned, you know, luckily for him, she also had a fiduciary degree, so she could help him with all of the financial things that needed to be done after Carolyn's passing. Mary, yeah. Red flags. We're making all these noises. Red flags be a flying. Mary had called to check on her dad, and they had had a great conversation filled with lots of love. And he assured her that he would move back as soon as the winter was over. And they agreed that they would stay in touch every three to four days in the meantime. A month after Carolyn's passing, Mary's son and great Jerry's grandson, Chris, got home from work and there was a message on the answering machine. And for those of you who don't know what an answering machine is, back in the day when we didn't have cell phones, we had what's called a landline phone. And so if someone called and there was no one home to answer, or if we didn't feel like answering, insert the new caller ID. The caller was able to leave a message recording on an answering machine. So now you know. The recording on Chris's answering machine said, quote, my name is Carmen. Jerry and I got married in Las Vegas. I'm asking that you give us some time to ourselves and not keep calling. Don't expect to hear from us until after the holidays. I'll write to you later with all of the information. End quote.
SPEAKER_01:Oh my goodness. What? I wasn't expecting this. Who the hell is Carmen? Right. Okay.
SPEAKER_00:What? Boy, questions. Oh my gosh. And that just reminded me. Was that a game at one point? Carmen and San Diego? Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Oh. So they weren't even that creative.
SPEAKER_00:Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_01:Oh man. The smells of fishy fish.
SPEAKER_00:The smells fishy. So Chris was obviously shocked at this unexpected message, and he called his parents to inform them. And his dad contacted Denise to see if she knew anything about this Carmen character. Denise explained that Carmen and Jerry had met at the grocery store and that they were in love.
SPEAKER_01:This was that's when it happens, the produce section they always say. This was over the parsley, it's like, ooh, baby. I know how to cook it.
SPEAKER_00:This was very interesting to the family because it was only one month after Carolyn passed away.
SPEAKER_01:Oh.
SPEAKER_00:They were together for 30 years. So suspicious. But it would not be the first time that he had made a rash decision in his life to tie the knot. He and Carolyn tied the knot after only knowing each other for two weeks. Wow. It was a second marriage for both of them after their spouses had passed. And they were just like, you know what? When you know, you know. So they were like, this is weird, but also not uncharacteristic.
SPEAKER_01:It's happened before.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Mary was understandably concerned about the news, but tried to reassure herself that he was in fact traveling and that he or she would at least hear from him on her birthday. Throughout her entire life, he would always go to the store himself and pick out her birthday card, and he always put$30 inside the card. She said, no matter what, no matter what age I turned, nothing. He he would always pick out the card and there was always$30. Like, oh, how wholesome. But unfortunately, her birthday came and went, and there was no card. The family attempted to contact him but had no luck. So they tried to call Denise and also hit a dead end. Where the heck was Jerry? It had been about five months at this time since they had heard from him. And so in February 2011, Mary filed a missing persons report with the San Diego Police Department. The police report said that Jerry had a new girlfriend and that he didn't want to see his family anymore. Mary was adamant to police officers that something was wrong and that this was out of character for her dad. Detective Mo Mikinis Parga was assigned to the case. She contacted his caregiver Denise, who shared that Jerry was in fact getting married to his new girlfriend, Carmen, in Vegas and that they planned to go to Mexico. She also mentioned that Jerry made her promise that she would not tell his family his whereabouts because he didn't want them to know. He said that his family was, quote, too religious and he just wanted to have fun, end quote. Also, this guy's 89 at this point.
SPEAKER_01:So well, either good for him or this is a big fat lie.
SPEAKER_00:Right. Because I'm like, if I'm 89, I don't think I give two flying squirrels about what anyone thinks. Right. So Denise sounded as though she was being truthful, you know, the story was believable. And so they thought maybe he's not missing after all. And Denise just isn't sure about their exact location at the time, but knew what their plans were. Police became skeptical that he was missing because an adult that doesn't want their kids to know where they are is not a crime. Detectives did share with the family that they had planned to move to Mexico with his new wife, but again, red flag. The family had said to police, he would never do that. He hated Mexico because of all the drug wars. And like, who knows Jerry best besides his family?
SPEAKER_02:Right.
SPEAKER_00:So the family stood firm in the fact that they knew him and that this was out of character for him. So doing their due diligence, detectives decided to trace his finances. And they found that he had used his debit card in Valley Center, California. And if this was true, how could he be in Vegas or Mexico? Valley Center happened to also be where Denise lived. So they thought, well, maybe he's just at her house. So they went there. When she answered the door, they explained that they were looking for Jerry. And she said, I told you he's in Mexico. She swore up and down. That is when they brought up his finances. If he was in Mexico, how did his debit card get used here? They showed her the printed transactions from the bank, and she immediately got flustered and said, quote, well, he told me I could have$5,000 on his debit card for helping him at his house, but you know, I felt bad spending that much, so I only spent$3,000. End quote.
SPEAKER_01:Oh my god. Come on.
SPEAKER_00:How noble?
SPEAKER_01:Super noble.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Squeaky clean. The detectives, the detectives were like, oh, really? So then can you explain this check written for$5,000? Oops. She goes, Oh, I mailed him a check in Mexico. Oh. Really? Really? So their next question was the same as mine. So what's his address in Mexico? She resisted sharing the information, saying that he did not want his kids to know. But after discussion and them probably being like, We're the police. Hello. Give it up. He's missing. Tell us the address. She finally produced an address. And detectives felt like they may finally have a solid lead. That is, if Denise was telling the truth. Agents were sent to the address in San Felipe, Mexico to search the area. Further investigation into his finances revealed a strange pattern on Jerry and Carolyn's accounts. Money was moving out of them and into a joint account between Jerry and Denise. She did, however, help him with his finances, you know, things like buying groceries. So she did have access to the money. The family was aware of that, but they found two large checks made out to Carolyn's son Ralph. One check was for$13,000 and the other was for$15,000.
SPEAKER_01:That's more than groceries.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, not groceries. Also, Ralph's like back in Kansas City. So how old is Ralph? Her son? Is he an adult? I don't know, adults. Oh yeah. They're all adult children. Okay. So this obviously made Ralph a person of interest. And Ralph shared with investigators that Carolyn had investments and that he had gone out to San Diego after her passing to handle her financials. And when he went to the bank to discuss her CDs, they told him that the amount that was in the CD was transferred by phone on September 29th from her account to Jerry's. Ralph told the banker that this was impossible because she was in a coma on the 29th. Yeah. There is no way that she made the call. Yeah. And the bank said, Oh, well, maybe her husband did it then. And I'm like, what?
SPEAKER_01:Seriously, are we that casual people?
SPEAKER_00:Guys, do we not have her a record of this? Like, am I just a record-keeping maniac from working at the hospital because this seems pretty, pretty important to track. I mean, details me tell, right? Yeah. Yeah. Ralph further explained that from the bank, he then went to Denise's house to ask her if she knew anything about the transfer of money. And she told him that she didn't, but you know, she would talk to Jerry to see if he knew and she'd be in touch. So she called Ralph the next day and said that, you know, she had talked to Jerry and that she would get him the money in two different checks. Ralph wanted to speak to Jerry, and Denise said, not possible. He's in Mexico. So this information from Ralph cleared him as a person of interest.
SPEAKER_01:So are we is is he's in Mexico. Is he in Mexico now a pseudonym for he's dead? I'm just saying. Maybe sad. Okay. That makes me sad.
SPEAKER_00:I know. And he's just like the cutest grandbook ever. So is that. Damn it. So Detective Mo continued to do some financial digging. She found that the house where Jerry and Carolyn had lived had been changed into Denise's name and sold immediately. Mo called the realtor, who proved to be nothing but uncooperative and never returned any phone calls. So thanks, thanks, no thanks. Mo found out that, oh, shocker. She was a friend of Denise's. But what was even more shocking was that Jerry seemingly turned everything he had over to a stranger. Mo checked in with the notary that was on the documents. And the notary couldn't help but notice that her name was spelt incorrectly, and that wasn't her handwriting on the documents. When shown a picture of Denise, she said, yep, recognize her, and that she was there often with a lot of paperwork. And during those times, paperwork is typically strewn about the table along with the notary pad, so it could be possible that she, Denise, signed it. And when they showed a picture of Jerry, whose signatures were also on the documents, the notary said that she had never seen the man before. Shocker. Investigators now believe that they had a clear-cut case against Denise Goodwin, the home health care worker. But there was more to the story when they heard from investigators in Mexico. It appeared that Jerry had never ever been there. They had the opportunity to speak with a groundskeeper at the property who had worked there for 20 years. And when shown photos of Denise and Jerry, he said that he had never seen either of them before. At this point, it was now six months since anyone had seen him, and all of his money and his wife's was transferred to Denise. The case began to look less like a missing person's case and more like a nobody homicide case. During this time, Mary got a call from her dad, and he said, quote, Mary, sweetie pie and I are traveling around the country, and we just want you to leave us alone. End quote. Then the call ended. Not only was this not her dad, it was not her dad's voice. And a daughter knows her dad's voice.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, they do. And no dad's gonna say, Leave me alone, I'm off with my sweetie pie. No, come on.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. I know you don't know Carmen, but she's real sweetie pie.
SPEAKER_02:No.
SPEAKER_00:Mary tried to call the number back, but it was dead. It appeared to be a kill phone to be used once and never again. A phone that criminals typically use. Mary called Detective Mo and told her about the phone call. Mo said, I'm so sorry to share this, but we have reason to believe your father may be dead. At this point, there was no proof of life. No one had heard from him since October of the previous year. And the Missing Persons case officially became a nobody homicide case. And Denise was the person of interest.
SPEAKER_01:Oh my God, that's so sad.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, this is such a sad story. But before we get more into it, it's time for a had to do a little extra in the end there since I'm alive today. Okay. So okay. So what I will share with you today is a brine. Nope. Not a brine.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, it is honestly a combination of brain and spine. I think we could call it a brine. Oh, I love that. I know. I should call them and say, I've got save some letters. Let's save some time. We're gonna call this brine.
SPEAKER_00:It's brine. So my brain just combined brain and spine.
SPEAKER_01:I love it. I love it so much.
SPEAKER_00:So it's a brain-spine digital bridge. So today we are talking about this medical breakthrough. So researchers in Switzerland have developed what they call a brain-spine interface, which is a digital bridge that allows people with severe spinal cord injuries to walk again. Wow. The results were published in Nature in 2023. And you can read the full article yourself on PubMed where I found it under walking naturally after spinal cord injury. Da-da-da-da-da. I guess if you want the whole thing, it is walking naturally after spinal cord injury using a brain-spine interface. But here's how it works: when the spinal cord is damaged, the brain signals can't get through to the legs. But in this study, scientists implanted a set of devices, one that records brain activity and another that stimulates the spinal cord. Using wireless technology, they essentially bypass the injury. The brain's intent to move is picked up by the implant, decoded in real time, and then transmitted directly to the spinal cord stimulator, allowing the body to execute the motion. Wow. Isn't that freaking cool?
SPEAKER_01:And it makes so much sense. That's amazing. Right? Oh my gosh, I love this.
SPEAKER_00:One of the study's most striking cases involved a man who had been paralyzed for more than a decade. With the implant system, he was able to stand, walk, and even climb the stairs without the help of crutches. Can you imagine? I can't. Like you haven't walked in a decade.
SPEAKER_01:Life altering. This is amazing.
SPEAKER_00:Amazing. And here's where it gets even more extraordinary. After months of training with the device, he actually regained some movement even when the system was switched off.
SPEAKER_02:Wow.
unknown:Oh my god.
SPEAKER_00:I just got chills. That suggests that his nervous system. I know. It's suggested that the nervous system was starting to rewire itself. Oh my god, I got chills. That's amazing. Wow. Ah, yes. So the brain can relearn how to carry signals that have been dormant for years. Yes.
SPEAKER_01:And we knew that about the auditory system, but I mean, it's everywhere. Obviously, in the body. This is crazy, crazy awesome.
SPEAKER_00:These implications are enormous. We are talking about technology that could one day restore mobility for people living with paralysis. Not in some distance sci-fi future, but in trials that are happening right now. Right meow. Of course, this is still experimental, limited to a very small number of patients, and it will take years and years of refinement before it's widely available. But the proof of concept is here. A brain implant can literally reconnect the brain and the body. So when we talk about the future of medicine, it's not just about new drugs or better imaging tools. It's about systems like these. This is so exciting, you guys.
SPEAKER_01:Ah I am so excited.
SPEAKER_00:So again, you can find the article. There was actually a lot of articles, but I just am only referencing one here. It was on PubMed. So yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I can't get rid of my goosebumps. I'm so excited about this. This is a this is crazy, but it makes sense. I mean, yes. Thank you for bringing this positive side to some of this sci-fi appearing medical experimentation that's going on. This is amazing. Thank you. You're welcome. Before you bring us back down. Okay, back to the story.
SPEAKER_00:So Detective Mo called William Bill Mitchell. And Bill is a nobody case expert. He's a prosecutor in San Diego, California, who has a reputation her reputation for leaving no stone unturned. The evidence that he collected for the case showed that Denise created a persona to fit her needs. By the time Denise Goodwin reached her late 30s, her life looked far different than she had hoped. Twice divorced, she was raising a teenage son while still living with her mother, Helen Locke, in a rural area of Northeast, rural area northeast of San Diego. She worked part-time at an animal hospital and also assisted her mother's fiduciary services business, where she became familiar with probate laws, wills, and trusts. On Helen's property lived Seward Norris, an elderly man suffering from dementia. Denise sometimes acted as his caregiver, but in 2009 she exploited him financially. Seward sometimes paid Goodwin about$7,000 per month for caregiver services and expenses. Holy smokes. By late 2008, he suffered from moderate to severe dementia. And in 2009, November, Denise contacted his life insurer and requested a surrender of the account. After she represented herself on the telephone as either his daughter or granddaughter, the insurer mailed a$44,562.39 check to Denise. She deposited the check into his bank account, but guys, of course, only after adding her own name to the account. She then used the money for her own benefit. This scheme gave Denise a taste for exploiting older men. At 44, just months after Seward's death, she posed as a 74-year-old widow on senior dating websites and even placed an ad on SugarDaddyforme.com, claiming she wanted to find a man between 72 and 88 who could meet her financial needs. When her online deceptions failed, she turned to employment as a caregiver. In September of 2010, she applied for the position with the Home Healthcare Agency, asking specifically to work with hospice assignments. Denise's mother had a great relationship with the agency, so she was her reference, but of course she didn't disclose their relationship. Her mother even made her fake certificates saying she was a caretaker and a fiduciary. So that that's like what at the beginning when I'm like, this case is different because it's like she's not actually medical, she just lied about being medical. But like her mom, her mom helped her. Probably with this. Because Denise was like, hey mama, look, I got all this$44,000. And then mom was probably like, shit. So let's get some more. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So that's why she made her a diploma from the university, right? So that is that what you meant?
SPEAKER_00:Oh, I haven't got there yet. But but yes. Oh yeah. So okay. So she did make her a certificate that she was a caretaker and a fiduciary. So she made Denise a diploma from the California State University, Fullerton, for completion of a certificate in professional fiduciary management for conservators. She was not bonded. She was not even trained in caregiving. And this is how she earned her first placement into the home of Carolyn and Gerald Rayborne.
SPEAKER_01:So mom's complicit. Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Right?
SPEAKER_01:Yep.
SPEAKER_00:Okay. And now that I'm thinking more about this, I'm like, I never saw anything about the mom getting in trouble.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, that's BS. I mean. Right? This is crazy. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:So not only was Bill Mitchell an expert in nobody homicide cases, he was also a fraud attorney. So he knows how to look into all the banking information and financial paper trails. When you follow the money in financial crimes, financial documents and paper don't lie, he said. He had found the sale of Jerry's house resulted in nearly$351,000 of profit, which went into a trust fund account that Denise had set up in her own name. Denise then bought a house, two condominiums, and some land. Her realtor was questioned and they learned that Denise shared it was her plan to buy property to rent out while she lived in Costa Rica. One of her condominiums already had renters, Tony and Jennifer Gonzalez. They were offered the home and even a car to use for super cheap. Investigators learned that Tony was working for Denise and would take care of the properties that she owned. They believed that he must be involved somehow. They just weren't sure how. And so when they looked into his phone records, it became clearer. The call that was originally placed to Chris from a Carmen was placed near the Gonzalez residence. And he was now also a person of interest. And so they got a search warrant for his home. In April 2011, investigators went to Tony's house with the search warrant. And he started sharing everything that had that he was doing with Denise Goodwin. He said when they met they were both actually homeless and that she was very nice. And when he when Denise had found out that his wife was disabled, she wanted to do stuff to help them. And according to Denise, she had bought some properties and she needed someone to help her with interviewing renters and general care. So, you know, she didn't have to be bothered with that kind of stuff. Of course, with a wife and two kids, perfect rent, how could someone turn this opportunity down? And Tony was blown away that he was now being looked at for potential involvement in murder case. He told authorities that up until that point, he had only ever gotten a ticket in his life.
SPEAKER_02:What?
SPEAKER_00:I know. Tony was desperate to clear his name, and he shared that Jerry didn't run off and get married like they were told, that the phone call from the woman fabricated to be Carmen was voiced by his wife Jennifer. He shared with investigators that Denise had told him that Mr. Rayborn and his new lady friend were trying to establish a new life together and that they wanted his kids to leave them alone. So he asked Denise, or I'm sorry, so Denise asked them to make the call because Denise claimed that Jerry was like, Can you please call my kids and just pretend to be Carmen and leave us alone? And she was like, Well, no, your kids will recognize my voice. I can't do that. So then she asked Tony, like, would Jennifer be willing to do it? Because they'll recognize my voice. Um, so they didn't really think anything of it at the time, but looking back at Yikes red flag, because if Carmen was real, why wouldn't Carmen just call?
SPEAKER_01:Right.
SPEAKER_00:And so looking back, Tony was like, she clearly didn't want her fingerprints on the phone. He told them that Denise was the one behind the call, and so his name was cleared, and that's that's great. But just red flags be a flying everywhere. So investigators were like, we need to start looking into phone recordings, specifically now recording to the bank to withdraw the money. And in listening to the call, they found out that she wasn't able to get past the security questions. Jerry, who was grief-stricken and vulnerable after loss of Carolyn, fell under her influence. The records recorded calls revealed that the day after Carolyn's death, Jerry signed a quick claim deed giving Denise ability to sell his house. A week later, he made her successor trustee of his estate, granting her authority if he became incapacitated or died. Through their joint account, she then had access to his$3,000 a month pension, and she also forged checks in his name. Denise stole more than$600,000 from Jerry. Ugh. An 89-year-old man who was grieving the loss of his wife. While all of this is sick and disgusting, it doesn't even bring forth criminal charges, unfortunately. It's crazy. So investigators got a search warrant for Denise's home in Valley Center. I don't know if you guys could tell. I was kind of tripping up on what I was reading because I was like, about the phone thing. Because I'm I know, but I didn't write in here. When Denise brought the burner phone to Tony and Jennifer's house, she clearly did not want to touch the phone. She brought with her an envelope. And after Jennifer was done with the phone call, she just like held the envelope open and had Jennifer slide the phone in there. So her fingerprints would not even be on the phone. And so Tony was like, Well, looking back, she didn't even want to touch the phone, but at the time I didn't think anything of it. So anyway, if you thought my brain fell out, it didn't. It was just working on two different tracks, and now we're back to one. So investigators conducted interviews and searched Denise's property. They noted that part of the ground on her property had recently been disturbed. And she was like, Oh, I recently buried one of my horses that passed away.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, a horse. Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. She did have horses, but they were like weird. Authorities brought a backhoe to the property and dug up that spot only to find nothing. No body, no horse, just nothing. So I'm like, then why was there a hole dug here? Okay.
SPEAKER_01:Because she moved it after they came on to explain. Yeah. Okay.
SPEAKER_00:No body, no crime, right? Mm-hmm. They found in her search history on her computer that she looked up overdosing on the painkiller Darvaset. This medication was a combination of opioid analysis. So sorry. I like feel hiccups coming on you guys, and I really hope that does not happen because that's going to be an editing nightmare for Tilly's.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Let's get through it. Do you want me to scare you?
SPEAKER_00:I know I'm like.
SPEAKER_01:Do you want to record upside down?
SPEAKER_00:Like if I speak it into existence, maybe it won't happen.
SPEAKER_01:We got an analgesic. We got a hypocrisy and a seat emit of Finn.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. It was all recalled in 2010 due to serious and potentially fatal heart risks. While at Denise's residence, Detective Mo received a call from the financial detective who alerted her that Denise had a flight out of the country scheduled for the next morning with her son. Hmm. Oh weird. Are they just going on vacation? Sure. They didn't yet have enough evidence for the murder case, but they thought they had enough to charge her with stealing the victim's car because Jerry's car was found at her son's high school. So that would at the very least prevent her from fleeing the country. And they decided to arrest her as she attempted to board the flight, which I loved. Like so dramatic. I like that too. It's like, haha, no, you're not going on your flight. Give me your he. Can you imagine you're like, oh, I've always got it. And they're like, think again.
SPEAKER_01:Love that.
SPEAKER_00:On July 12, 2012, both Denise and Michael Goodwin were arrested. After a month in jail, she was surprisingly moved to a maximum security prison. She was in the dark about any new charges. In a phone call to her husband, which when I read this, I was like, now she has a husband. Is it a third husband? I don't know. Whatever. In a phone call to a person called her husband. She was heard crying and saying she didn't know what was going on. And her husband said, Oh, you haven't heard? She was like, No, what's going on? And he told her, The charges have been filed, and they're charging you with murder in the first degree with special circumstances. Oh my God, she cried. Did they find him?
unknown:Uh uh.
SPEAKER_00:What? Hello.
SPEAKER_01:Hello, guilty lady.
SPEAKER_00:Searches were completed to try and find Gerald's body, but unfortunately, they were never able to locate his body. There was no cause of death, no crime scene, no coroner report, and the stakes were high in a nobody case. Denise's trial began in late August 2014 and stretched into October. All of the audio recordings were used in court, including her, did they find him? in the phone call with her husband. Jerry's grown children and grandchildren took turns giving their impact statements to the court. With his voice breaking, his son closed his statement by saying, quote, My father did not deserve to be murdered, end quote. Mary, his daughter, gripped the court with her eloquent speech. She first humanized her father, making Judge Rogers smile as she described her how her father loved to eat fish sandwiches, took Jack Lalani, Jack Lalan care of his body. I don't know, it must be very good care of your body. And that he was so compulsive that he picked up leaves each day by hand, taught her how to float on her back, and walked her down the aisle on her wedding day. Later, she turned to her father's absence and said that she knew her she knew her father was dead when she did not receive a birthday card from him. She went on to describe the visions that she had of her father's last moments, which have tormented her and destroyed her health. She has nightmares of where her father's body might be buried. She detailed the beautiful burial their family should have had, the music that would have lifted her body father's body to heaven, and the military honors her father would have been given, and that he had had earned as a World War II veteran. In a gesture of mercy, she turned towards Denise Goodwin and told her that she forgives her, stating that this is, quote, not beyond restoration from a loving God, end quote, but that she must return the most sacred of things that she has taken, her father's body. In closing, she asked the court not to judge her father by the few years remaining, but by the 89 years he had lived in which he was loved by his family. After four days of jury deliberation, which I'm like, four days, guys? I guess like it was mostly circumstantial, but Denise was found guilty of first-degree murder with the special circumstances of financial gain, along with caretaker theft from an elder, fraudulent appropriation by a trustee, grand theft, and forgery. She was guilty on all 11 counts. On January 30th, 2015, she was sentenced to life without parole. Deputy District Attorney Bill Mitchell called her a quote, thief disguised as a churchgoer and a killer disguised as a caregiver, end quote. Though her defense admitted she committed fraud and theft, they argued murder was beyond her and sought a reduction to second degree murder, which was denied, luckily. Before sentencing Denise, Judge Rogers said that there were some moments that were not big enough to hold everything that goes into them, and that this was one of those moments. To the Rayborn family, he expressed that he was profoundly sorry that a human life was taken for financial gain. He then pronounced the sentence to the family. It was what they had asked for was the life without the possibility of parole. And Mary had said, I don't think that she knew how smart my dad was with money. I think that he confronted her and threatened to turn her into the police. She said, I've never had a funeral for my own father, and it's hard to find closure when there's no body. I still cry for him. To this day, the circumstances of Gerald Rayborn's death and the location of his body remain unknown because Denise is a fucking loser. Rotting in prison, but will not give that to the family.
SPEAKER_01:Wow. I mean where does she have to lose? She's already in there for life. At least so obviously she doesn't feel any remorse, or she would at least do this one thing that it doesn't it's not like it gives them closure, but it gives them some peace knowing that their dad is buried and where to go to you know visit his grave and like I don't know. That's just so cruel. It's so cruel in so many ways because you know, this is a true crime in healthcare podcast. I just feel like when people are hired to provide care, medical care, they ought to be held to an even higher expectations than you know, your painter or your plumber, right? So not only that, she ingratiated herself to the extent where they were like we look, you know, before the mom died, I forget what her name was, but his wife died. Yeah, they they were just like so so what what was this her plan all along, do you think? To ingratiate herself?
SPEAKER_00:And what a sociopath because they were talking about like trying to also try her for like accelerating Caroline's death.
SPEAKER_01:Can you imagine?
SPEAKER_00:And like she already has life without parole, and and like maybe that would help the family find some sort of closure. I don't know if that would add insult to injury.
SPEAKER_01:So she might have had something to do with Carolyn's death as well. That's good. They were like, yeah. I mean, she ingratiated herself to the point where she could mask her true personality because let's face it, if you're somebody who's, you know, masking yourself as a healthcare provider with you know, ulterior motive of taking your money, you're not a you're not someone who's an empath. Um this is crazy to me. It's so disgusting. And it makes me wonder how can we trust anybody? How do you know? And her poor children.
unknown:I know.
SPEAKER_00:And now that this was brought up during me reading this, and I never thought about it before, but why the heck did her mom not get in trouble? So her son did get charged with automobile theft or like grand theft auto or something. But like Helen's got in trouble for making these fake certificates. What?
SPEAKER_01:She wouldn't have been able to get the job that she did if she hadn't leveraged her mom's position and her mom hadn't falsified records. So I yeah, I feel like that's a missed opportunity right there, too.
SPEAKER_00:I agree. Ah so again, this wasn't like super medically, but she was pretending to be medical and she was just a scoundrel.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, no, it's important. It's important for our listeners to know uh not all healthcare providers are believable or have altruistic intentions, which is scary as well.
SPEAKER_00:Which I guess we have talked about plenty of that just have walls plastered with fake certificates and degrees.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Check degrees. I think it's a lot easier now to check credentials than it has been in the past. And I think that awareness is important for listeners, especially when you're looking at your loved ones and you want to make sure that their care providers, no matter how much your loved one likes and gets along with the care provider, people can mask their true intent. So make sure you're checking qualifications. I mean, because that was one thing, I guess, that they could have put not no victim at all. But that's the one thing that she didn't have was actual qualification.
SPEAKER_00:So and I'm like, what if this had been like again? I'm sure she's thought about this nine billion times, but like, what if I just told him, like, no, I'm coming out to move you home now? Like, don't stay there the winter. Yeah. But it made sense that like winter in San Diego is gonna be a lot nicer than winter in Kansas City.
SPEAKER_01:So it's just the stuff that happened that was out of character for him, especially I was probably too late by the time she didn't get a birthday card, but like you know, you you know your family, you know your parent, and something was amiss. And it's just tragic. I can't believe that somehow they couldn't offer life in prison as the plea deal, in terms of like, you can tell us where he is, or you can have the death penalty. Yeah, you know.
SPEAKER_00:But then she would probably just be like, fine, give me the death penalty. I don't want to live in jail forever, and I'm not telling you. Okay.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I don't want to go there, but I don't know. It's just absurd, like just giving the family that. Absolutely. Well, thank you. That was a fascinating case, and I appreciate you bringing it up. Well done.
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SPEAKER_01:Medical mishap. Who wants to read the medical mishap? Okay, because you hiccuping in yawning. My body is doing so. Oh girl, we're getting through it. All right, but this is good. We're gonna end on a positive note here. Today's medical mishap comes from Sam, who writes, Dr. Amanda and Dr. Jenna. I want you both to know that I love your podcast and your friendship as well as your easy banter. I feel like you are friends and would love to have friends I would love to have over for coffee or margaritas.
SPEAKER_00:We love those things.
SPEAKER_01:I like the juxtaposition there. It's like, yes.
SPEAKER_00:We'll start with coffee and end with margaritas, okay?
SPEAKER_01:We're friends. That's yeah. We are friends. Alrighty. Okay, so Sam says, Most of all, I love I love the content that raises awareness about healthcare issues, all with compassion for the victims and an eye on educating us listeners. We appreciate you. I know you've had a colonoscopy mishap on the show before, but I can't help but share mine. I mean, never enough colonoscopy mishaps, right? So Sam goes on to say, I had my first colonoscopy scheduled. Everyone warned me that the prep was the worst part. True. They weren't kidding. Two days of jello and clear broth, followed by what I can only describe as industrial strength laxatives. That seems extra stringent. I think these days it's just one day, but anyway, who knows? By the time I got to the clinic, I felt like a balloon with all the air let out. My spouse drove me, and as we walked in, they whispered, remember, dignity is optional. I love you, spouse. They're like, I'm just gonna mess with you just a little extra. The nurse gave me one of those open back gowns. I tied it in three different ways before realizing there was no way to avoid showing the world my backside. As I shuffled down the hall, clutching. It shut. I swear, I look like a Victorian ghost haunting the GI ward. Another patient saw me struggling and said, First time I nodded. They winked and said, You'll be fine. Just don't moon the anesthesiologist.
SPEAKER_00:Well, not the frequent flyer giving commentary down the hall. Right.
SPEAKER_01:Thanks, dude. So they wheeled me into the procedure room. The anesthesiologist said, Okay, count backwards from 10. Instead of numbers, I decided to recite Beyonce lyrics. According to the nurse, I got as far as all the single ladies before I passed out. That's way more fun than counting. And when I woke, I exactly. I'm gonna start. Yeah. So you want 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 7. I don't think so. Right? When I woke up in recovery, my spouse told me the entire staff had been seen along. So they probably took it beyond all the single ladies. I felt great, maybe too great. The sedation is no joke. I sat up, pointed dramatically at my spouse, and declared, We must go to Olive Garden immediately. Unlimited breadsticks await. No, I want those. The nurse gently reminded me that maybe Fettuccine Alfredo wasn't the best first meal post procedure. I counter argued that pasta is basically clear liquid if you squint hard enough. Apparently, I lost that debate. As we were leaving, I realized I still had my hospital socks on, the grippy ones. I insisted they were a souvenir and refused to give them back. My spouse said I started out of the clinic like a catwalk model, holding up the socks like they were a prize on the prices right. To this day, whenever I put on a pair of fuzzy socks at home, my spouse bows and says, And the award for the best post-colonoscopy performance goes to I love your spouse. Bam. Oh my gosh, you guys are so cute. Was it embarrassing? Sure. But honestly, laughter made the whole ordeal bearable. Colonoscopies save lives. And if my lasting memory is Beyonce lyrics and sock modeling, love Sam. Love, love, love. Sam, we love you. Oh my god. That was amazing. Such a great story.
SPEAKER_00:Thank you so much for sharing that. And you're so good at writing, like I can picture that entire story happening.
SPEAKER_01:I know. I know. It's like something on a sitcom. I absolutely love it.
SPEAKER_00:All right, Jenna. What can we expect to hear next week?
SPEAKER_01:Well, next week we're gonna cover Dr. Conrad Murray and the death of Michael Jackson. Ever heard of him?
SPEAKER_00:No, who's that? I'm kidding. I'm kidding. You don't know who I was, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Girl. So until then, dumb is the beat. Subscribe, subscribe or follow Doctoring the Truth wherever you enjoy your podcasts for stories that shock, intrigue, and educate. Trust, after all, is a delicate thing. You can text us directly on our website at doctoringthetruth at buzzsprout.com or email us your own medical mishaps at Doctoringthe Truth at Gmail. Be sure to follow us on Instagram at Doctoring the Truth Podcast and on Facebook at Doctoring the Truth. We are on TikTok for now at Doctoring the Truth and at oddpot. Well, I mean, you know, unless TikTok is supposed to again. I'm just saying. Oh it might. I never know what's going on. There's apparently another round, another round of wondering what's happening. But honestly, you guys, we really, really would love to hear a comment from you. You know, that would be a gift. My birthday is coming up soon. Can you just write something about us positive? If you don't have anything nice to say, don't. But please, uh it would be such a gift if you would rate and review us so you know we can feel good about ourselves and what we're doing so that we can bring you more content next week. Until then, stay safe and stay suspicious. Suspicious.
SPEAKER_00:Goodbye.
SPEAKER_01:Bye.
unknown:Bye.
SPEAKER_00:I swear to god, I hope that audio from earlier when I forgot my mic works.
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